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You want entertainment?

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Wholesome, interesting, and vital?

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This, the motion picture industry, is
pledged to provide.

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What would you do if you did go to
Hollywood?

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Fornicating. That's what I call
disgusting.

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What the hell's the matter with him?

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He was gay, and I thought I fell in love
with a man.

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A steady stream of sturdy stuff.

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You mind it? There's more, darling.

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Don't say any word.

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You're just a little tramp.

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You used to be sweet and clean.

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She's wicked, but I love her.

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Would you be dark if I put on something
more comfortable?

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You want to make whoopee tonight?

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Definitely. Yippee and whoopee.

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We're all alone. No chaperone can get
our number.

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The world's in slumber.

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Let's misbehave.

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There's something wild about you, child,
that's so contagious.

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Let's be outrageous.

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Let's misbehave.

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When Adam won his hand, he wouldn't
stand for teasing.

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He didn't care about those apples out of
season.

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They say the spring means just one thing
to little lovebirds.

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We're not above birds Let's misbehave

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Let's

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misbehave

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Let's misbehave.

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You'll be just so sweet and only meet
your fate, dear. It would be the great

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event of 1928, dear.

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When I first entered these stages in the
early 20s, motion pictures were still

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very young.

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But as young as the industry was, it
didn't take long before films were being

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scrutinized by panels throughout the
country.

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Some were banned, some were declared
obscene, some condemned as mortal sins,

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and some even caused riots.

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By 1922, the situation had become so bad
that the industry hired ex-postmaster

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general Will Hayes to institute its
first censorship code.

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The Code sets up high standards of
performance for motion picture

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producers. It states the considerations
which good taste and community value

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make necessary in this universal form of
entertainment. Respect for law,

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respect for every religion, respect for
every race, and respect for every

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nation.

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Will Hayes was first a very good friend
of mine, a very nice man, a very common

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man. He liked to joke.

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He didn't drink. He didn't smoke.

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But outside of that, I mean, he was very
human.

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And he was dedicated to the industry and
I think did probably more good for the

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industry than anybody else that I can
think of. But by the late 1920s, the

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situation changed for the worse.

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Theater attendants fell and producers
panicked. They were no longer willing to

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listen to the Hayes office.

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Gradually, more and more exploitive
scenes were added in an effort to get

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people back into the theaters.

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I learned firsthand about this
not-so-new policy in an early talkie I

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was in called Party Girl.

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This scandalous plot may seem camp to
our modern ears, but it was more than

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shocking in its day.

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Leda, what happened?

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Do you have to ask?

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Oh.

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Oh, I'm terribly sorry.

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How could I have done such a thing?

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What can I do to make it right?

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If you can't see your own obligation, I
can ask nothing.

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Obligation?

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Wait. Why, we don't even know each
other.

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Why didn't you know I... I'm in love
with someone else.

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Well, at least I was in good company.

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Here is a young Barbara Stanwyck
starring in Babyface.

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Say, I like it here. How about a job?

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Oh, now, don't tell me in this great big
building there ain't someplace for me.

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Have you had any experience?

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Plenty.

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I'd rather wait in there.

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I hate crowds.

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Don't you?

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The boss won't be back for an hour.

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Well, then why don't we go in and talk
this over?

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This film, like Sign, would soon be
banned from theaters around the country.

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Barbara Stanwyck at times may have been
provocative, but another star at Panama

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drove the center absolutely crazy.

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She

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was

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an interesting figure in the history of
the cinema because...

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I don't know that I think she was ever
really particularly very sexy. She was

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kind of funny, she was out front in a
way that women particularly weren't in

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their times, and I think that that had
as much to do with her success as

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anything else.

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Her particular gift was a power of
suggestion and innuendo. She could make

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the most innocent lines sound wicked.

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Oh, Mr.

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Clayton, I was thinking over everything
you said, and I made my decision.

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Good. I'm glad you made up your mind so
quickly.

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Oh, very quick in a slow way.

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You see, I can't discuss it over the
phone. It's got a lot of angles to it.

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You better come up and see me.

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Well, I'll be glad to.

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In fact, I'll come over right away if
it's convenient for you.

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Most convenient.

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I'll tell you this much, you're going to
like what I got in mind.

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Uh-huh.

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I'll be ready.

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Goodbye.

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The code not only didn't stop May, but
worse, it was powerless against

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Hollywood's producers who sometimes went
to the extent of even exploiting

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children.

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These early 30s performances shocked the
public and provoked a popular cry for

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wholesome family entertainment.

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In fact, by 1934, boycotting films
became a national movement, and a legion

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of decency was formed by the Catholic
Church to demand change.

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Hollywood's producers knew they had to
do something, so in 1934, they created

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what would become the most important
censor office in the country.

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Every studio had to have their films
approved by Mr. Joseph Breen, hired by

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Will Hayes, who prepared a simple set of
commandments that spelled out what

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Hollywood could and could not do.

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Its broad general purpose is to ensure
screen entertainment which will

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be reasonably acceptable to our patrons
everywhere.

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Entertainment which is definitely free
from offense.

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Kisses can last no more than three
seconds.

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In love scenes, keep at least one foot
on the floor.

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Nudity isn't allowed, plain and simple.

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Excessive violence is forbidden.

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Show that crime does not pay.

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Profanity is not allowed.

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Brothels and places suggesting sexual
sin are not proper locations.

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There is no room on the screen at any
time for pictures which offend against

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common decency.

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The vulgar, the cheap... and the Torby
is out.

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The code worked, and the film industry
cleaned up its act.

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Stars like Shirley Temple were given
much more wholesome roles.

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They even went so far as to clean up
Betty Boop.

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Put your

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buns below, but leave the damsel to me.

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You mean... Betty had sex appeal, so

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the Hays office demanded that she be
covered up, which meant...

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losing the garter and the short skirt.

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But when Betty lost her sex appeal, she
lost her audience as well and

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disappeared from the screen within a
couple of years.

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This censored W.C. Fields sequence

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of The Dentist was not only banned
because of its not-so-subtle sexuality,

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but also because of strong disapproval
from the dentists of America.

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Have you ever had this tooth pulled
before?

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No.

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This won't hurt you much.

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No.

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whole sequence be cut.

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And this is all that remains.

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Relax.

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Would you like a drink?

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The biggest censorship battle of the
1930s did not involve W.C. Fields, Mae

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West, or even Shirley Temple.

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For that matter, it didn't even involve
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King Kong may have been frustrated in
his search for Fay Wray, but not nearly

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as frustrated as Joe Breen, who found
the film excessively violent and

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demanded over six minutes of cuts such
as these.

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You've seen King Kong looking in the
window.

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Look at what he saw and what Green tried
to make sure that you would never see.

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The most controversial scene was the
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King Kong.

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The peeling off of her clothes and his
obvious infatuation with the starlet

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went against two of the production
code's forbidden lists, nudity and

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perversion.

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As Mae West had her imitators, King Kong
had his.

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But some may have gone a bit too far.

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In The Love Life of a Gorilla, producers
promised the audience a look at a love

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cult between natives and gorillas.

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The Hayes office made them break their
promise by forcing them to change the

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title and cut these scenes.

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He was paralyzed.

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He wanted to shoot but could not.

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Here, being enacted before his very
eyes, was the fantastic monkey worship.

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an actual living thing in our midst.

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The love life of a gorilla was still
shown, changing its name to Forbidden

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Adventure and playing at theaters that
Hayes and Breen could not control.

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It was just one of the many exploitation
movies that independents produced in

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Hollywood during the 30s. They tried to
call their films educational, but it was

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obvious that education had very little
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That night there was a wild party.

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I drank some champagne and it went to my
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And then it...

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I gave myself to him.

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Another film banned by the Legion of
Decency was Sex Madness.

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Sex Madness takes you behind the scenes
where you will learn the story of young

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and innocent Millicent as she finds
herself falling in with bad company.

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Oh, I'm tired.

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Me for bed.

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Bed? Did you say bed?

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That's not to relax him. That's for
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You will follow Millicent down the
crimson path of immorality.

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She lost not only her honor, but her
health.

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Not an aspect of the disease will be
left.

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It will even be fixed on me.

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What in God's name are you talking
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I thought I was a human.

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They were disguised as educational
films. I can remember at a...

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theater back in Bath, New York, where
they had some sort of a medical film. It

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was a VD film, of course, and they had
separated the audience. I mean, there

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was a showing for men and a showing for
women, and there were all sorts of cries

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about nurses in attendance at all times,
and it was sort of a sex technique, and

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they were kind of funny. There was a
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be seen, and it was...

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what somebody once said about the
women's magazine years later, kind of a

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pious pornography.

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You will see it all in this
no-hold-barred film expose.

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Lust. Man, oh, man, she got it. Boy, oh,
boy, look at that baby.

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Debauchery. You can phone home and
you're staying with friends.

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Perversion in its extreme.

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Sex madness.

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Coming soon to this theater.

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In the 1940s, Hollywood not only
produced motion pictures to entertain

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and educate the troops, but also films
like The Gang's All Here to keep up the

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public morale.

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But director Busby Berkeley might have
gone a bit too far with his suggestive

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dance, which faced its own censorship
battles.

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Can you believe that in Argentina, this
was banned not because of the costumes,

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but because the dancers exposed their
bare feet?

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Then in the 1940s, Hollywood was wracked
by a major censorship battle, which made

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the cuts imposed on King Kong in the 30s
seem minor.

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This time, Hollywood censors went to war
with producer Howard Hughes over his

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production of The Outlaw.

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And if the truth be known, The Outlaw
was outlawed by his own promotion, his

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own advertising, and even by his own
coming attractions.

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Now, Howard Hughes gives you The Outlaw.

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The outlaw is the most exciting
entertainment you have ever seen.

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Savage love.

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Primitive emotion.

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I think the advertising campaign had a
lot to do with the people that were

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looking at the film.

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I want to tussle with Russell.

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I can't remember him all. They were all
corny as can be.

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He was trying to get a seamless bra,
which they did not have in those days.

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And he was ahead of his time, as usual.

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And it was a ridiculous contraption. I
never wore it.

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Once I found out what he wanted, I...

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threw the thing under the bed and put on
my own bra and put Kleenex over the top

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of it and put the blouse back on. The
wardrobe girl was having a fit. She

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says, I'm going to get fired.

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And I said, forget it. They won't ever
know the difference. And we went out and

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did it.

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And he never knew.

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With the nation's attention focused on
Jane Russell's bosom, the censors and

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Howard Hughes went to battle.

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He didn't.

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You see anything of Dr. and the sheriff?

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They'll lay right behind you and put
those hands where they belong.

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There was cleavage in it, and of course
in those days you didn't show any

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cleavage at all.

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And it was, I remember the shot they
got, as a matter of fact, and it was not

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even supposed to be in there because it
was an accident.

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It was a, there was a, the bed and Billy
the kid was lying on the bed and I was.

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The camera was right across from me, and
I leaned over this way. I had a blouse

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on that went like so, and I leaned over
to pull the covers up, and they got too

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much cleavage. Be careful of your wound.
You'll hurt yourself.

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Hughes fought Breen for two years over
this scene.

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Breen's office demanded that over eight
feet or five seconds be cut out.

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Instead of eight feet, Hughes cleverly
cut out eight inches, which amounted to

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only about one second.

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We've slowed it down, and this is how
the uncensored version looked.

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When you see the picture today, it's
just, you know, it's kind of a slow,

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dull picture, and it certainly doesn't
have any, there's nothing very naughty

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about that picture at all.

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Jane Russell and Howard Hughes teamed up
again and ran into a bigger fight with

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the censors, this time over the French
line.

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I remember in the French line he wanted
me to wear a bikini. Well, nobody in

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this country wore a bikini.

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And you only heard about bikinis in the
south of France where, you know, some

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naughty girls in the south of France
wore bikinis. So he wanted me to do a

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dance number in a bikini. And I said, no
way.

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I'm looking for trouble.

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I'm going to throw the book away.

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Be unpredictable from day to day.

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In every way I can, can, can, can, can.

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This Cinderella is looking for a fella
who tell her what she's sweet as I am.

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Looking for trouble, won't mind the
trouble.

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In trouble looks like a M-A-N.

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After the French line ruckus, because
there was one about the costume that I

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eventually wore.

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It was a one-piece bathing suit, but it
had holes cut out in it. And then, of

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course, they had a fit about that.

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And after that was over, I just said, I
said to him that I did

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not ever want to get in a picture or be
in one that had any censorship problems

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at all.

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Jane's problems with censorship
unfortunately didn't end with the French

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line. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes matched
Jane with Marilyn Monroe, who sang

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Little Girl from Little Rock, the song
whose lyrics were censored by Joe Breen

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himself.

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Then someone broke my heart in Little
Rock.

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So I...

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They left their pieces there Like a
little lost lamb I roamed about I

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came to New York and I found out That
men are the same way everywhere

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I liked Marilyn very much. She was very
shy,

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and she was having trouble with the
front office for some reason.

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Trouble was nothing new to Marilyn,
whose background was already full of

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censorship problems, dating back to her
calendar photos.

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Her reputation caused censors to stay on
the set and monitor her actions, even

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down to a kiss.

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How about me? Did you like me too?

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Well, at first sight, I thought you were
some kind of a hooligan, yelling and

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stomping like that.

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But when I realized you were doing it
for me, I was attracted to you.

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Attracted?

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You are?

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I still am. You still are?

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Really attracted?

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I can imagine how far we've traveled in
whatever direction since then.

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is that in the love scene, we had to
reshoot the love scene because Marilyn

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opened her mouth during the kiss.

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And that was the censorship problem.

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I mean, you're so big and strong and,
well, so darn heavy

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-looking. I guess I am in pretty good
shape for the rodeo, because you've got

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to be when you're competing in all five
Class A events.

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We went to reshoot it on another day,
and Joshua Logan was directing the

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scene. He said, now, Marilyn, don't open
your mouth, you know. And I'd come to

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kiss her, and she'd open her mouth. I
said, okay, cut, take two.

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Marilyn, don't open your mouth.

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And she kept opening her mouth.

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So after about the seventh or eighth
time, when I went to kiss her and she

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opened her mouth, I went and I looked
and I...

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looked in her mouth like this, and I
turned to the camera and I said, you

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will tell mother where I've gone.

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Marilyn eventually got fed up with
Hollywood and left for New York.

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Her replacement was Sherry North.

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Marilyn Monroe was put on suspension,
and Fox was courting me very heavily

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because they wanted another blonde to
threaten Marilyn.

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She didn't want to do what they wanted,
which was called How to Be Very, Very

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Popular, which was the first film I did
at Fox when I went under contract.

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It's so innocent by today's standards, I
can't believe it.

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But it was a lot of, you know, shaking
and gyrating and jumping around and all

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that kind of crazy stuff.

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And I think, really, at the time,
everything on film was very innocent,

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but if there was any kind of hype about
it.

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And since I had come from Broadway and I
was the hottest 90 seconds on Broadway,

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I already came with a questionable...

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And so when I did the dance number, all
of the kids that I had worked with in

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the chorus were in the show.

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And they said, you're getting quite a
reputation, and people at our church ask

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us not to work with you, and things like
that. When you were coming up in this

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business and doing bathing beauty
contests and all that kind of stuff,

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and doing little cheesecake photos and
things like that. There was a man in

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town who did films, and girls would walk
around pools in their bathing suits, you

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know, and he would photograph it, and
then he would sell these through the

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mail as home movies.

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And they were very innocent, and Marilyn
did them, and everybody who did

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cheesecake did them when you were broke.
He paid $50 for film.

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So when I went to do my first film, I
thought, well, I'm not just going to

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walk around the pool. I have to dance.

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So they were tried in court, and there
was a lot of publicity about they were

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to censor them, and they were lewd and
lascivious and all that kind of stuff.

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So there was a court date, and they
showed the films in court, and the judge

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said... Well, they're really just kind
of boring.

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But it was a big censorship thing, and
it was the same thing, you know, with

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Marilyn and the calendar.

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And that night was that I had been
vindicated. It hit the front page of the

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paper, and Marilyn was getting her photo
play award.

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And we met out in front, and she said,
Oh, first me with the calendar, and now

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you with the lewd films.

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And it seemed like we were these racy,
lewd, lascivious people.

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Sherry faced yet another type of
censorship battle.

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While her most personal measurements
were front-page news, censors

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continuously made sure that none of it
showed.

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We always used to laugh at Fox Studio
because all of the costumes were made,

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they were all boned and padded out
because of that bullet bra or whatever

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you call it. You could extend...

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you know, across the room, as long as
you didn't show any cleavage this way.

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And so the standard thing in the
wardrobe department was all the busts

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were made the same.

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And we always used to laugh because we'd
all say, look, look, we all measure

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exactly the same. And when we lie down,
nothing moves.

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And there was one special brassiere at
Universal that it was sort of like,

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well, everybody used it.

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That's it open for you, honey.

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In a mow, honey.

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Because of the cleavage problem and they
couldn't really display their charms,

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they went the obvious, which was patting
their bras.

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Look, Miss Dimple Toes, if you people at
the school think that Vic and me, Vic's

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my husband and he's out of town on a
job, if you think we're raising a

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juvenile delinquent, say it.

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No, Mrs. Delaney, we don't think...
Don't double talk me.

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You've got me pegged as a no-good
relative.

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The only reason I came here is
because... Come on, honey. Don't draw

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diagrams of me.

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The bullet bra is very pointed breasts
that look like a

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pyramid.

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That's my only description.

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Two pyramids.

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I don't remember inviting you in here.

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I won't look.

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And I think that...

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Guys in those days had probably thought
all women had breasts like pyramids, you

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know, and they were very discouraged
when they found out otherwise.

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And that's the way they got around it,
by wearing this brassiere and

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covering this up to here and then
becoming larger this way. That way the

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Hayes office never could peek, you know.

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The Hayes office could peek at scripts
and make sure American audiences saw

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only what they approved.

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But the producers knew what would sell
in Europe and reshot several scenes.

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In this scene, undercover agent Russ
Tamblyn meets the leading drug dealer

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played by Jackie Coogan.

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When the film played outside the United
States, viewers got a closer look at

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this unhappy girl.

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Russ calls his teacher and wakes her up.

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Hello? Viewers outside Breen's control
saw a slightly different version of this

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scene. What is this, a joke?

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No, no, no, this isn't a gag.

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You've just got to believe me. I can't
explain now.

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You're looking for excitement?

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Why not? I'm a citizen.

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Upon reading the script of High School
Confidential, the censors demanded that

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Mamie be completely cut from the film.

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They found her character to be a
nymphomaniac and unnecessary to the

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story. That's why I worry, thinking of
you coming up against those young, tight

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sweaters.

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You ought to know.

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Stop treating me like a stranger.

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Let's get out of town slowly.

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Relatives should always kiss each other
hello and goodbye politely.

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You're getting paid for my room and
board.

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The producers fought for Mamie and
finally won out.

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But that wouldn't be Mamie's only
problem with the Hayes office.

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Oh, I did a movie called Girlstown.

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And I was put into girls like it's a
Catholic school for bad

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girls. You don't look so tough to me.
You do everything the sisters tell you

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to do.

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I give them a fair shake, they give me a
fair shake.

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I'll bet you do.

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Use a lot of soap.

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You need it.

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I was asked to supervise pictures to be
produced by a producer new to our lot

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named Suggsmith.

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And the first picture he started to work
on, It was called Girlstown.

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So we sent the picture over to Monsignor
Little, as I remember it.

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And he called me, told me about
objections that remained,

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and I discussed them with Zugsmith.

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Zugsmith said, could I talk to Monsignor
Little?

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It's a free country. I couldn't say no.

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Put him on the phone.

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And he managed to aggravate Monsignor
Little so completely that the first and

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only time that I knew of, he lost his
temper and said he was going to condemn

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the picture.

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The blonde bombshells of the 1950s were
notorious for being in trouble with the

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census. One of the most famous and
controversial blondes to come out of

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Hollywood at that time was Jane
Mansfield.

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Ladies and gentlemen, now for another
special award.

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To present that award, a very special
young lady who came to Hollywood by way

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of UCLA.

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I'm sure she is easily recognized, at
least here in her own community,

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although she could very easily travel
anonymously just any place, Miss Jane

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Mansfield.

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Sweet of all of you.

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Thank you very much.

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Now, down to business.

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Though determined to be a star, Jane was
never able to capture the magic of

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Marilyn.

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Later, in an effort to restore her
failing career, she finally bared it all

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for... Promises, promises.

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It outraged the censors.

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Jane Mansfield's career would never
recover.

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Later,

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about 1967, we were to do...

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a nightclub act in a place called
Biloxi, Mississippi, called Gus Stevens

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Supper Club.

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We were both booked in there at
different times.

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Jane had just gotten back from Europe,
and I was held over in New York while I

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was doing a play, and I'd asked her if
she would please switch times with me.

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And she said that she would. She'd take
the kids down, and that's when she met

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her death.

469
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:39,060
I was very distraught. I was devastated
when Jane died because I felt that

470
00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:40,060
possibly...

471
00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:46,000
Maybe in some way I had contributed to
it. It wasn't that I was psychic, but it

472
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,520
was that there was a protectiveness that
prevented me from going down there, and

473
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,140
maybe the same thing would have happened
to me.

474
00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:59,640
And

475
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:06,560
now

476
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,760
let's join my co-host, Peter Fonda.

477
00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:10,530
This is Hollywood Boulevard.

478
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:14,490
It's changed a little since I first came
to town 46 years ago.

479
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:18,430
And this, you'd scarcely give it a
second look now.

480
00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:22,430
But 50 years ago, this was the most
important building in Hollywood.

481
00:41:23,170 --> 00:41:24,630
This was the censor's office.

482
00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:33,530
As a teenager and active film goer, I
remember the 50s as a time when stars

483
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:38,410
like Marilyn Monroe, Sherry North, or
Jane Mansfield made the term sex goddess

484
00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:39,410
mean something.

485
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:43,610
But the sex goddesses had it easy when
it came to censorship compared to

486
00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:44,610
Babydoll.

487
00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:48,870
Babydoll!

488
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:51,950
Babydoll!

489
00:41:52,990 --> 00:41:57,870
We thought that Babydoll was going to be
a sleeper.

490
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,620
As a matter of fact, it was a
low-budget, small, black-and-white

491
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:06,040
production done all on location in
Mississippi.

492
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:13,440
And Carl and Eli were wonderful stage
actors, not necessarily big movie

493
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,440
names.

494
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:20,320
Marilyn Monroe had wanted to do the
film, and Warner Brothers had wanted

495
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,320
her.

496
00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:27,250
Elia Kazan and Tennessee Williams did
not because Marilyn was such a big star

497
00:42:27,250 --> 00:42:33,310
and she brought her own image to any
production that she did. And they wanted

498
00:42:33,310 --> 00:42:38,270
an unknown girl so that Babydoll became
the new image.

499
00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:46,490
The story was of a 19-year-old girl who
was promised in marriage to an older

500
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:48,890
man, Archie Lee, Carl Malden.

501
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,320
And the marriage had not been
consummated. And it was very funny, the

502
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,700
fact that he was constantly peeking at
her through holes in the wall and so

503
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,280
forth to see her sleeping or to try to
catch her in the bathtub or something.

504
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,140
Because unless there was furniture in
the house, the marriage was not going to

505
00:43:08,140 --> 00:43:10,680
be consummated until her 19th birthday.

506
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:15,200
Carl Malden, because this new modern...

507
00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:20,090
Cotton gin has been built by the Eli
Wallach, the Vaccaro character.

508
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:25,310
He's been losing a lot of his business.
Now, if he loses his business, he can't

509
00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:28,790
buy the furniture for the house. If he
doesn't have any furniture in the house,

510
00:43:29,170 --> 00:43:32,450
Babydoll is not going to let him
consummate the marriage. So he's a very

511
00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:33,450
desperate man.

512
00:43:36,770 --> 00:43:40,830
He goes out and burns down Eli Wallach's
cotton gin.

513
00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:47,030
Eli... hears about this, he finds out
that Carl Malden did it. So he comes to

514
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:48,030
get revenge.

515
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:53,570
And his revenge is by taking the
virginity of Babydoll.

516
00:43:53,850 --> 00:43:59,450
In carrying out our action, which was, I
wanted that woman to confess about

517
00:43:59,450 --> 00:44:02,890
the burning of my cotton gin.

518
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:08,010
And this was one of the steps en route
to doing it. Whenever she got too

519
00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:10,390
frantic and too frightened, I pulled
back.

520
00:44:11,310 --> 00:44:12,430
Should we just relax?

521
00:44:18,370 --> 00:44:20,470
Would you move over and make a little
room?

522
00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:24,910
Is that enough room for you?

523
00:44:25,390 --> 00:44:27,190
Not for me. How about you?

524
00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:33,150
What a lovely remark your husband made.

525
00:44:34,610 --> 00:44:36,350
Good neighbor policy, I mean.

526
00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:38,510
Eli Wallach.

527
00:44:39,669 --> 00:44:45,830
Intimidate baby doll and he begins to
tease her now in a very subtle way

528
00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:51,730
You you absolutely saw nothing because
nothing happened I think he took a

529
00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:57,630
feather and and he talked to me in low
voice now baby doll becomes very aroused

530
00:44:57,630 --> 00:45:02,230
by this without quite Understanding
what's happening to her?

531
00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:10,300
Delegate? Me?

532
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:15,440
Neither much of you, but what there is
is choice.

533
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,220
When the controversy happened, the most
incredible things were said about this

534
00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:27,340
scene. They said that he had his hands
on very intimate places on my body.

535
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:33,120
It didn't happen. It was suggested in
the emotion, the deep emotion that was

536
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,880
felt within the scene. But you did not
see those things. If you actually looked

537
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,060
at that film objectively, you could see
that nothing happened.

538
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840
There's the absolute delicacy of your
skin.

539
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:46,980
Well, what should I say? Thanks or
something?

540
00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:50,240
No, you just smiled at me.

541
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:52,460
You've got an attractive smile.

542
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,740
Oh, yes, you do.

543
00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:58,730
Come on, now smile.

544
00:45:59,330 --> 00:46:01,890
There, you see, you do. You do have
them.

545
00:46:02,190 --> 00:46:07,690
In the swing scene, a lot of esoteric
magazines wrote about it later, saying

546
00:46:07,690 --> 00:46:10,190
that was a real seduction.

547
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:12,810
Where were his hands? What was he doing?

548
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:15,490
Actually, we were shooting in November.

549
00:46:16,350 --> 00:46:18,430
It was cold as hell in Mississippi.

550
00:46:20,050 --> 00:46:24,350
In order that our breath not show on the
screen, since it was supposed to take

551
00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:26,790
place in the summer, we'd chew on ice
cubes.

552
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:32,220
until Kazan said action. Then we'd spit
out the ice cubes so the breath was the

553
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:33,660
same temperature as the air.

554
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,580
That's one of the things we were
concerned about. Also, we were freezing,

555
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:42,900
so we had long johns on and there were
radiators down below heating us so that

556
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:44,340
we would have a sense of warmth.

557
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:50,220
And it always impresses me that people
say, oh, that was a sexy scene. We were

558
00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:51,220
freezing.

559
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:54,540
I think I'll go and make us some
lemonade.

560
00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:58,390
What did you do that for?

561
00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:02,610
I don't want to be deprived of the
pleasure of your company.

562
00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:05,070
What's that?

563
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:07,868
Oh, Mr.

564
00:47:07,870 --> 00:47:09,930
McCarroll, you're certainly getting
familiar.

565
00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:14,110
Don't you have any fun-loving spirit
about you? Well, this isn't fun.

566
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:16,430
Well, why do you giggle then, hmm?

567
00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:18,750
Because I'm ticklish.

568
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:19,990
You're ticklish?

569
00:47:21,790 --> 00:47:23,010
Don't be so skittish.

570
00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:26,930
I'll get up then.

571
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:42,850
I feel so weak.

572
00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:48,550
It was very, very early on a Sunday
morning when...

573
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,800
I was called by Vernon Scott of the UPI,
who said, your film has just been banned

574
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,460
by the Catholic Legion of Decency, and
Cardinal Spellman has just denounced it

575
00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:03,120
from the pulpit of St. Patrick's
Cathedral. What do you have to say?

576
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,000
And I said, which film?

577
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,780
Because it seemed to me that there was
nothing as censorable about Babydoll. I

578
00:48:11,780 --> 00:48:16,540
was astounded, because I thought we were
doing a rather biblical film.

579
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,680
in the sense that revenge is in the
Bible.

580
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,060
If someone commits an outrageous act
against you, an eye for an eye and a

581
00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:26,060
tooth for a tooth.

582
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,620
That's what I thought. I didn't think
anything about the sexuality of it.

583
00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:35,670
And then, of course, everybody, when the
controversy happened, just couldn't

584
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:40,090
believe it because there we were not
only banned and probably one of the most

585
00:48:40,090 --> 00:48:45,370
controversial films of all time, but
they had the crib shot the entire block

586
00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:46,850
on Broadway.

587
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:53,070
And it just, you know, it sort of put
more coal on the fire.

588
00:48:54,130 --> 00:48:59,430
Today, it's hard to believe the furor
Babydoll caused in the 1950s. when Time

589
00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,890
magazine called it, quote, the dirtiest
American-made motion picture that has

590
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:06,150
ever been legally exhibited, end quote.

591
00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:11,730
Oh, I think it's the terrible irony of
American films that the censors, both in

592
00:49:11,730 --> 00:49:15,550
Hollywood and in the country at large,
were always much more exercised about

593
00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:17,630
sexuality than they were about violence.

594
00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:21,690
Violence became a substitute for sex. I
mean, that was where you got your action

595
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:23,550
and your conflict and your drama and
your excitement.

596
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Cut.

597
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:40,540
That's enough.

598
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:44,560
It doesn't take a lot of imagination to
see why they banned films like Blood

599
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Feast. But sometimes the problems are
not quite so clear.

600
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,280
At least that was the case with Peeping
Tom, a film that was pulled from

601
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,500
theaters within days of its first
release.

602
00:49:55,540 --> 00:49:56,600
Don't be shy.

603
00:49:57,820 --> 00:50:00,600
For me, it's my first time, too.

604
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,100
Directed by Michael Powell, who was
known for family classics like The Red

605
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:10,250
Shoes and Teeth of Baghdad, Peeping Tom
told the story of a seemingly shy

606
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:13,010
individual with some deep-rooted
problems.

607
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:25,250
20 years after its first release,
director Martin Scorsese personally

608
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:26,950
resurrected Peeping Tom.

609
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:29,930
But at that time, I heard that it was
black and white and that it was cut.

610
00:50:31,350 --> 00:50:35,650
I had no idea what, you know, and then
later on, I was so involved with the...

611
00:50:36,010 --> 00:50:40,770
My fascination with trying to find older
films to preserve them and this idea

612
00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:45,770
where all these directors were in the
early 70s when I started to make films

613
00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:48,930
in Hollywood. I got to meet a lot of the
directors whom I loved, or at least I

614
00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:51,070
got to see them, talk to them maybe once
or twice.

615
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:58,310
But the one person left that had his
name on a number of films that I adored,

616
00:50:58,370 --> 00:51:02,170
and the one person left was Michael
Powell.

617
00:51:03,110 --> 00:51:05,790
Not! I want to ask you something rather
personal.

618
00:51:06,610 --> 00:51:08,950
How long is it since you've gone out
without that?

619
00:51:09,250 --> 00:51:10,069
Without what?

620
00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:11,070
That camera.

621
00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:13,170
Oh.

622
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:16,010
I don't think I know.

623
00:51:16,250 --> 00:51:20,450
Exactly. I don't think I've ever seen
you without it. Then I thought that not

624
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:24,610
only did they make Thief of Baghdad, I
mean, partially direct, but some of the

625
00:51:24,610 --> 00:51:28,490
major scenes directed, The Red Shoes,
one of my very favorite films, The Tales

626
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:31,830
of Hoffman, which taught me a great deal
about camera movement and...

627
00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:34,170
the movement of actors inside a frame,

628
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:40,290
Black Narcissus, Matter of Life and
Death, these incredible films.

629
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:45,510
And having been, I'm also kind of an
Anglophile, I like British films, but

630
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:47,430
these British films were so different
from the other British films.

631
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:50,530
Not only that, but then he made this
film Peeping Tom. That's the one that

632
00:51:50,530 --> 00:51:53,550
Jim McBride talked about. That's the one
that people claim was kind of dirty and

633
00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:56,870
nasty. And then I heard later on, a few
years later, that it was shown after

634
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:57,870
McBride talked to me about it.

635
00:51:58,750 --> 00:52:00,890
In the early 70s, it was shown at the
Museum of Modern Art.

636
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:03,280
What? how this sees grown-ups.

637
00:52:04,340 --> 00:52:05,460
Me, for instance.

638
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:06,700
Not you.

639
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Why not?

640
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,920
I will never see you.

641
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:11,300
Mark.

642
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,660
Whatever I photograph, I always lose.

643
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:23,080
The hero of the film is not the
psychotic crazy that you would think.

644
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,660
He's a very sweet character.

645
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:29,920
And it's a guy that you seem to identify
with, or if not identify with,

646
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,000
sympathize with.

647
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:33,910
All this filming isn't healthy.

648
00:52:35,050 --> 00:52:36,410
And that you need help.

649
00:52:37,550 --> 00:52:38,550
Get it, Mark.

650
00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:43,030
Why are you putting that light on my
face?

651
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:47,710
Mark?

652
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:56,730
Please let me finish.

653
00:52:57,690 --> 00:52:58,690
It's for Helen.

654
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:01,879
What do you mean?

655
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,900
It's for Helen.

656
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,960
She wanted to see something I
photographed.

657
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,000
My daughter sees enough of my face
without photographs.

658
00:53:10,660 --> 00:53:14,180
Please, don't be frightened.

659
00:53:15,140 --> 00:53:16,140
I'm frightened.

660
00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:34,630
I find that very different from the
other approaches of this kind of

661
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:37,450
material, or a slasher picture or an
exploitation picture.

662
00:53:37,810 --> 00:53:39,530
The picture's really not an exploitation
film.

663
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:44,150
I think it was... Michael always says it
was a very sweet film. He doesn't

664
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:45,170
understand what all the problem was.

665
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:49,430
Do you know what the most frightening
thing in the world is?

666
00:53:57,010 --> 00:53:58,010
It's fear.

667
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,080
I did something very simple.

668
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Very simple.

669
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:15,580
When they felt the spike touching their
throat and

670
00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:22,000
knew I was going to kill them, I made
them watch their own

671
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
deaths.

672
00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:29,540
I made them see their own terror as the
spike went in.

673
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:35,700
And if death has a face, they saw that
too.

674
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,260
Right after the film was just shown at
the New York Film Festival, right on

675
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:42,800
television on Fright Night, Channel 9,
Fright Night, Friday nights at 1 o'clock

676
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,800
in the morning, you know, a picture of
Boris Kulov comes on and you hear a lot

677
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,640
of thunder and lightning and you see
Peeping Tom.

678
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:52,180
And it's the full version, you know,
something that was banned 20 years ago.

679
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,940
It's okay to show now on television.
It's no problem.

680
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,620
It's madness, total madness.

681
00:54:56,750 --> 00:55:00,930
By the late 60s, Americans got more and
more upset about the amount of sex and

682
00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:04,610
violence Hollywood was putting in its
films. The motion picture producers

683
00:55:04,610 --> 00:55:08,910
decided it would be best to discard the
outdated production code that no one was

684
00:55:08,910 --> 00:55:13,190
listening to and to replace it with what
we know today, a classification system,

685
00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:16,370
which I became personally acquainted
with right away.

686
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:20,850
It is designed to inform parents about
the suitability of movie content for

687
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:21,850
viewing by their children.

688
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:25,890
One of the first films to test the new
rating system was Easy Rider.

689
00:55:26,330 --> 00:55:31,110
which starred Dennis Hopper, myself, and
newcomer Jack Nicholson. Easy Rider was

690
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:35,610
a document of the changing times, and
believe me, after the 1960s, nothing

691
00:55:35,610 --> 00:55:36,610
remained the same.

692
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:39,590
Easy Rider had everything the
establishment feared.

693
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:44,130
Sex, violence, rock and roll, and drugs.

694
00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:33,920
Easy Rider was one of the first
conventional movies to show drug use.

695
00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:37,840
That's not to say that people hadn't
been making movies about drugs.

696
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:39,300
Quite the opposite.

697
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,620
These high school boys and girls are
having a hop at the local soda fountain.

698
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,620
Innocently, they dance.

699
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:51,920
innocent of a new and deadly menace
lurking behind closed doors.

700
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,200
Marijuana, the burning weed with its
roots in hell.

701
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,360
In this film, you will see the ease with
which this vicious plant can be grown in

702
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,220
your neighbor's yard, rolled into
harmless-looking cigarettes, hidden in

703
00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:11,560
an innocent shoe or watch case.

704
00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:14,380
If you want a good film, try one of
these.

705
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:16,120
You will meet Bill.

706
00:57:16,730 --> 00:57:21,350
who wants to pride in his strong will as
he takes the first step toward

707
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:22,450
enslavement.

708
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:42,530
Smoking the soul-destroying reaper, they
find a moment's pleasure, but at a

709
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:43,530
terrible price.

710
00:57:44,090 --> 00:57:45,090
Divorce me!

711
00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:50,780
Murder. Suicide.

712
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:55,200
And the ultimate end of the marijuana
addict.

713
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,620
Hopeless insanity.

714
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,480
See this important film now.

715
00:58:11,180 --> 00:58:14,080
Before it is too late.

716
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,600
When it was first produced back in the
1930s, Reefer Madness was banned in many

717
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,840
states for its bold exhibition of drug
use and racy sex.

718
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,900
Of course, that didn't stop these
low-budget roadshow artists who went

719
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:35,100
city by city showing their films in
small theaters and leaving before the

720
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:36,100
cops could come.

721
00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:39,480
The filmmakers probably never dreamt
that Reefer Madness would become a hit

722
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,600
in the 1960s, and it was not the only
one.

723
00:58:43,220 --> 00:58:47,540
After the success of Reefer Madness,
exhibitors went back to the film vaults

724
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,160
for another camp classic, Cocaine
Fiends. We're looking for a guy that's

725
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,540
been peddling dope to school kids. I'm
going to take you on a sleigh ride with

726
00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:56,540
some snowbirds.

727
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,960
Sleigh ride?

728
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,220
Snowbirds? In the summer?

729
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,420
Gosh, you are dumb.

730
00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:03,860
Yes, Frank.

731
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:05,100
Sleigh ride.

732
00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:11,660
Snowbird. This is the gutter slang of
the Cocaine Fiends. Say, I know a fella

733
00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:14,760
that could put you on a show right away.
In this film, you will meet Jane

734
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,060
Bradford. Maddox, got a headache? She's
a young and innocent cocktail waitress.

735
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,180
Jane Bradford is about to lose that
innocence.

736
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,880
I got the grandest headache medicine in
the world.

737
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:26,600
Yes, Jane.

738
00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:28,280
Headache medicine.

739
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:30,640
Why, that's marvelous.

740
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,020
I feel better already.

741
00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:38,640
This is the startling expose of
youngsters sucked into the white powder

742
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,640
whirlpool.

743
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,420
The 60s were no better captured on film
than in Woodstock, the 1968 documentary

744
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:32,160
on the legendary music festival.

745
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:37,400
Woodstock's candid look at drugs, the
Vietnam War, and the lifestyles of this

746
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,640
generation found a popular audience
throughout America.

747
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,960
It also incurred the wrath of censors
and police in Kenosha, Wisconsin, who

748
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,240
denied theater entry to the town's
youth.

749
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:04,690
We'll be right back.

750
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,860
Even with the new rating system,
censorship didn't disappear.

751
01:01:27,220 --> 01:01:31,600
In the 1970s, the major battles just
moved from Hollywood to the hinterlands,

752
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,720
with local censors condemning two of the
biggest films to come out during the

753
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,720
decade.

754
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,180
Taxi Driver caused a heated battle over
its classification with the rating board

755
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:44,180
at war with director Scorsese.

756
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,480
You talking to me?

757
01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:49,340
You talking to me?

758
01:01:52,620 --> 01:01:53,620
Talking to me?

759
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,820
Then who the hell else are you talking
to? Talking to me?

760
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Well, I'm the only one here.

761
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,600
Who the fuck do you think you're talking
to?

762
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,420
Fuck out of here, man.

763
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,640
Get out of here.

764
01:02:11,580 --> 01:02:12,580
Fuck on this.

765
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,260
The biggest problem I had with
censorship was the ratings board issue

766
01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:21,480
on the taxi driver.

767
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,180
The problem was violence and open
sexuality, they claimed.

768
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,280
For me, the violence was very honest.

769
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,500
It was very honest and it was filled. It
was an explosion of rage.

770
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,000
And that was the only way I could do it.

771
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:56,400
The color of the blood was so red, so
vibrant, that it made it seem to me like

772
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,620
fake blood. So I thought, well, I got an
idea. Why don't we tone down the color,

773
01:02:58,660 --> 01:02:59,920
and that'll take away some of the shock
effect.

774
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,400
But in actuality, what happened was that
it made it worse, and that was the idea.

775
01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:09,700
The idea was to make it stronger, and
you make it stronger by, in a sense, at

776
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:14,420
that time, reflecting the tabloid image,
an image on like a daily news, New York

777
01:03:14,420 --> 01:03:17,320
Daily News, images on the front page of
violence and that sort of thing, so that

778
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,800
it became even more, in my mind, it
became a little more difficult to take.

779
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:25,460
Violence wasn't the only controversial
issue affecting the censors. In carnal

780
01:03:25,460 --> 01:03:28,000
knowledge, the censorship issue was
simply sex.

781
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,520
Why, mister, why is it more?

782
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,840
The script, written by Jules Feiffer,
was rich with four-letter words and

783
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:42,840
sexual encounters.

784
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,740
This prompted the Georgia police to
seize the film and arrest the local

785
01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:50,480
theater manager for distributing obscene
material.

786
01:03:51,340 --> 01:03:55,240
A local jury found him guilty, and the
Georgia Supreme Court upheld the

787
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,880
conviction. The case finally went to the
U.S. Supreme Court, where it was

788
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,880
overturned.

789
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,920
Sandy, please take your hand off my
breast.

790
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,140
Why? Because I want you to.

791
01:04:10,020 --> 01:04:13,080
How could it be any fun for you if you
know I don't want it? I didn't say it

792
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,080
was fun.

793
01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:16,440
Then why your hand where it is?

794
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,140
Because the way we're going, by this
time I should be feeling you up.

795
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:28,100
I don't feel that way about you, Sandy.

796
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:31,160
That brings us to our last story.

797
01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:36,040
During the Christmas of 1985, a movie
hit the screens that would generate a

798
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,480
national grassroots uprising.

799
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,120
Silent Night, Deadly Night presented a
homicidal maniac who was disguised as

800
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,960
none other than Santa Claus, upsetting
not just church groups, but a wide range

801
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,400
of Americans throughout the entire
country who simultaneously demanded that

802
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,400
film be pulled.

803
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:05,700
But the night before Christmas, when all
through the house not a creature was

804
01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:11,220
stirring, not even a mouse, the
stockings were hung by the chimney with

805
01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:17,500
care in hopes that St. Nicholas soon
would be there.

806
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Brian survived Christmas.

807
01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:08,580
Silent night.

808
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,640
Deadly night.

809
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:16,260
It was withdrawn in all the theaters
except the few that refused to return it

810
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:18,360
because the business was so good that
they just wouldn't.

811
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,080
Almost all the theaters had contracts to
play it for five weeks.

812
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,500
They could play it as little as two
weeks, but they had the right to play it

813
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:27,500
for five.

814
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:32,760
And my understanding, and again, you get
to hearsay because unless you're sitting

815
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,680
in the office where the phone rings, You
don't know. My understanding was that it

816
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,040
was withdrawn at the request of the
studio from almost all of them. I know

817
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,400
at least in Boston and Buffalo that they
refused to return it because in Boston

818
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,820
they were doing standing room only for
the full five weeks. The film was re

819
01:06:49,820 --> 01:06:53,420
-released the next year with two
substantial changes.

820
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,360
Gone was the reference to Santa, and the
new publicity campaign featured the fact

821
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,140
that it had been banned throughout the
country. A movie that shocked America.

822
01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:08,700
hollywood and frightened the government
the movie they tried to ban you've read

823
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:15,600
about it you've heard about it now you
can see it in all its terrifying horror

824
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:22,480
silent night deadly night the movies as
i've often said spent 60 years saying

825
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,640
they lived happily ever after suddenly
the movies began to say you'll be lucky

826
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:32,160
to get through the weekend i think the
lack of censorship of some kind of

827
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,360
Guidelines some kind of controls or
something gives you less freedom not

828
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,260
more freedom freedom because what
happens is now the things that you

829
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:46,220
weren't allowed to do now become
Obligatory I mean if you have to get in

830
01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:49,560
it and it's on the screen they have to
chew on each other's mouths You know

831
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:56,540
they have you have to throw in Blood you
have to throw in Brains blowing out

832
01:07:56,540 --> 01:08:00,460
you know in films are at least people
distributing films

833
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:07,440
feel that that's the case Roger Corman
had an incredible way of Formula making

834
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,060
up a formula for his pictures. There's
exploitation films and in boxcar

835
01:08:11,060 --> 01:08:16,800
birthday. He told me remember every 15
pages nudity Pages that yeah in the

836
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:22,880
script and whether it's a leg Full
nudity or maybe just the suggestion of

837
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,819
nudity, but every 15 pages. You got to
keep that interest going I think it'd be

838
01:08:26,819 --> 01:08:29,399
a whole lot better if everybody were
naked and didn't shoot each other

839
01:08:30,620 --> 01:08:35,200
And get rid of the guns and the knives
and the violence you know Everything had

840
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:41,120
to be way up here, and if it wasn't then
you had to have little netting you know

841
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:46,880
put in Never never never not even a
shadow Which is very unrealistic and

842
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,800
pretty stupid, but on the other hand I
like it a lot better than what's going

843
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,800
on today

844
01:08:52,060 --> 01:08:55,600
You can have something up to here, and I
mean, you know, people have x-ray eyes.

845
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,160
They want to think of something, they're
going to think of it anyway.

846
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,899
I think it's outrageous that every
argument settled on television today is

847
01:09:02,899 --> 01:09:03,899
settled with a weapon.

848
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:10,960
That the only solution to any argument
or discussion between people is with

849
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,279
violence. I am appalled by that.

850
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:19,069
Who is so smart or so bright or so
intelligent that they are capable of

851
01:09:19,069 --> 01:09:23,290
telling the rest of us what we should
think, what we should see, or that we're

852
01:09:23,290 --> 01:09:28,170
not mature enough to handle certain
subjects? I think that's totally

853
01:09:28,170 --> 01:09:29,170
ridiculous.

854
01:09:40,140 --> 01:09:45,200
Don't show that. I'll have to call the
censor on you. Don't wear that.

855
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,040
Don't read that.

856
01:09:47,460 --> 01:09:52,779
Don't touch that. I'll have to call the
censor on you. You're too hot. We're

857
01:09:52,779 --> 01:09:53,779
gonna get caught.

858
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:56,660
Cause you're too hot to handle.

859
01:09:58,180 --> 01:10:01,040
You're too hot. You show up a lot.

860
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:07,280
But you keep it up. My mama's gonna make
me change the channel. No, no, no, no,

861
01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:08,460
no, no.

862
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,080
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

863
01:10:49,580 --> 01:10:52,400
You're too hot. We're gonna get caught.

864
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:55,340
Cause you're too hot to handle.

865
01:10:56,780 --> 01:10:59,700
You're too hot. Like to show off a lot.

866
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,780
But you keep it up. My mom is gonna make
me change the channel.

867
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:05,840
Don't make that.

868
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,720
Don't take that.

869
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,300
Don't shake that.

870
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,600
Gonna call a censor on you.

871
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:13,300
Don't hold that.

872
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,060
Don't take that.

873
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,000
Don't bring that. I'm gonna call a
censor on you.

874
01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:20,600
Don't say that.

875
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,360
Don't say that.

876
01:11:22,940 --> 01:11:27,860
Don't do that. I'm gonna call the system
on you.

877
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:33,900
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.

878
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:34,500
We're all alone, no chaperone can get
our number. The world's in slumber.

879
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,260
Let's misbehave.

880
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:40,800
There's something wild about you, child,
that's so contagious.

881
01:12:41,660 --> 01:12:43,260
Let's be outrageous.

882
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,360
Let's misbehave.

883
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,020
When Adam won his hand, he wouldn't
stand for teasing.

884
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:54,440
He didn't care about those apples out of
season.

885
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,280
They say the spring means just one thing
to little lovebirds.

886
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,700
We're not above birds.

887
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,200
Let's misbehave.

888
01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:16,740
Let's misbehave.

